I agree Mike that it’s a complete body system that really should be called a detox system. When the body gets overloaded with toxins from food, air, water, medications, jabs , negative emotions the list can go on. If it is unable release these toxins this is when disease manifests in the body. I’m not a believer in Germ theory the clue is in the name. Keep up the good work brother.
Ive read (from the amazing Northern Tracey) that the immune system was a construct of germ theorists- concocted in the 1950's? Or maybe 70's? As a way to explain (or hand-wave away) those who don't get sick when exposed to "pathogenic particles".
Perhaps its worth further deep dive into the origins of the "immune system" - when did this term start to show up, and from who? 😉
very interesting I've been coming to similar conclusions 'The body does not want to suppress its own detox symptoms in the acute phase, but as the toxins are removed and the patient convalesces, the symptoms need to be reduced and the body returned to normal. The increase in production of ‘neutralising’ antibodies may bind to these ‘shock’ proteins, suppress their action and prevent further cytopathic effects, both in cell culture and in the body.
In the case of ‘SARS’ one of these shock proteins is the so-called spike protein, which is produced by the cell in response to oxidation and stress, and has been observed since the 90’s.
If the mRNA in the jab is translated into this stress response protein ’spike’, and antibodies hyped up by the jab bind to it and suppress its action, this would explain the period when the vaccinated allegedly avoided ‘severe covid’. However suppression of detoxification symptoms, also a problem with early interventions such as Ivermectin, means that whatever the body was trying to get rid of; inorganic toxins, products of physical, mental or emotional stress etc will remain in the body. This may explain ‘long covid’, as well as the increased incidence of rapidly developing cancers after the jab.' https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/if-viruses-dont-exist-what-about
One may also ask the question, how long does a specific type of cancer take to grow? For the sake of argument, lets take patient X that found a cancer tumor in 2022, well if that specific type of cancer takes between 5-10 years or even longer to grow then how can a COVID-19 injection in 2021-2022 then be the cause of the cancer that takes 5-10 years to grow? Important to note here is that I do not try to claim here that the COVID-19 injections are safe because they aren't but we should be careful to not fall into the trap of blaming the wrong things either out of convenience because no true prevention can occur if we are addressing the wrong cause or causes.
Thanks John! This is an incredibly important point and one I was hoping someone would bring up. It's critical to consider the temporal nature of whatever you are trying to correlate. If you want to blame a drug effect on some new symptom that has emerged then it would only make sense if you started the drug within days of the new symptom not months. Here you've made a great case that if we go by the previous estimates for the temporal relationship regarding the growth of a tumor then it probably doesn't make sense that it would be related to the vaccine. However, what if that prior notion about tumor growth is wrong? What if it doesn't take 5-10 years? I know we are always told that cancer is disease of aging, of older people and I suppose the demographics do tilt in that direction but, what about childhood cancer? Also, how do we really know how long it took for a given tumor to grow? Diagnostics are really just a snapshot in time and then we predict back using models governed by the latest theory of cancer. Clearly I'm walking into uncharted territory here as we really just don't know how long it takes unless you are constantly doing whole body scans. However, what if it can happen on a much shorter timescale than what we are told? What it really comes down to as you've pointed out is "how long does it take a specific type of cancer to grow?". We must have an accurate understanding of that question to determine whether it's possible to make a correlation between the vaccines and the increase incidence in cancer cases.
"However, what if it can happen on a much shorter timescale than what we are told?"
Very good point that it may not need as much time to grow as we have been led to believe. I think this is a very complex question in regards to time because it's not just down to the level of exposure of toxins from a single source, the quality of nutrition and lifestyle, emotional and psychological health etc all play a role here too so what may be true for one individual does not necessarily turn out to be true for another. This is a topic I think where we should move away from a single cause into the thinking and perspective of multiple contributing factors. Yes, the injections may be a contributing factor due to its high level of toxins but it may not be the sole cause of cancer because there are so many other contributing factors to consider that are often are left out.
Completely agree. We have to consider that there are likely multiple contributing factors at play. The injections are certainly having an effect and could contribute to it but, we'd have to rule out everything else to say that it's solely caused by them. Here's another question... What if we are talking about pre-existing tumors that were caused by an assortment of different factors whose grow is not being significantly sped up due to the injections? The thing is we just don't know as we have no idea what is in the injections or everything they are doing.
Maybe cancer DOES take 5-10 years to grow, but maybe it can be exacerbated by the introduction of other new toxins.... or compounding toxins?
I know the 5G correlation has been sort of a taboo topic even within our community. But at the end of the day, its man-made & defies nature. We've seen what frequency changes do to birds for example. 5G was also newly introduced on a massive scale within the last couple years. Perhaps that could have exacerbated cancer growth?
What other new toxins may have been introduced recently that may create anomalies? Or what other toxins may have been exacerbated?
A quick (but relevant) tangent...
As a FL resident, ive seen a pretty alarming change in the so-called "naturally occurring red tide" and the "cyanobacteria". Both are not "new", but they seem to get perpetually worse. More & more, you can't swim or go to the beach. 2018 was the most infuriating & devastating years - 200 million tons of dead sea life were removed from the coast all around the state - worst year on record. The same year I realized it wasn't "naturally occurring" but was showing up AS A RESULT of something else. (When I found your Steamit articles, it started to make sense)
Florida has 27 phosphate mines - the byproduct phosphogypsum, is highly toxic & radioactive. This waste cant be (or isnt) disposed of, instead it sits atop these giant hills lined only with plastic. It isn't contained with any sort of lid either (It gets punctured easily, leaking into the municipal water system & the aquifer. Or a storm or hurricane will throw it around - we just had an epic CAT5 hit the state on Weds.... same time of year that red tide & cyanobacteria are the worst... go figure!)
Anyway, ive frequently seen articles about increase in cancer - especially among children who live near these mines, or hotspots for agricultural runoff, or concentrated cesspools of water with high levels of glyphosate.... yet people don't seem to make any correlation.
Anyway ive seen significant changes & warning signs in the 12 years I've lived here.... destroying the beautiful beaches, our drinking water, the plant & sea life... and overall health has been deteriorating.
Interesting. Firstly I commend you for not taking the mandated Covid military grade bioweapons. But hey, I'm challenging you to step outside the American Christianity "box" and tell your listeners the Truth. American Christianity is also a Greek initiated psyops that has flipped the narrative upside down. The only reason Yeshua Hamashiach - a Jew - commanded peace in the storm was because He was divine and fully connected and spiritual entangled to the creator God. Jesus is a Greek Hellenized icon that is not divine and thus cannot bring any peace to anyone. 'Still in the Storm' isn’t clear because you obviously do not understand it at a spiritual level and you don't really understand the science and dynamics of how a storm or hurricane actually operates. A storm is a double vortex.... one being visible moisture and the opposite counter-rotation is unseen energy that counteracts it and creates the STILL at the apex. You are not identifying the unseen energy accurately. Your version is merely a narrative... an old and boring one proselytised to the rest of the world mainly by Americans.
I agree Mike that it’s a complete body system that really should be called a detox system. When the body gets overloaded with toxins from food, air, water, medications, jabs , negative emotions the list can go on. If it is unable release these toxins this is when disease manifests in the body. I’m not a believer in Germ theory the clue is in the name. Keep up the good work brother.
Thank you! Appreciate the comment.
Ive read (from the amazing Northern Tracey) that the immune system was a construct of germ theorists- concocted in the 1950's? Or maybe 70's? As a way to explain (or hand-wave away) those who don't get sick when exposed to "pathogenic particles".
Perhaps its worth further deep dive into the origins of the "immune system" - when did this term start to show up, and from who? 😉
Hiya,
very interesting I've been coming to similar conclusions 'The body does not want to suppress its own detox symptoms in the acute phase, but as the toxins are removed and the patient convalesces, the symptoms need to be reduced and the body returned to normal. The increase in production of ‘neutralising’ antibodies may bind to these ‘shock’ proteins, suppress their action and prevent further cytopathic effects, both in cell culture and in the body.
In the case of ‘SARS’ one of these shock proteins is the so-called spike protein, which is produced by the cell in response to oxidation and stress, and has been observed since the 90’s.
If the mRNA in the jab is translated into this stress response protein ’spike’, and antibodies hyped up by the jab bind to it and suppress its action, this would explain the period when the vaccinated allegedly avoided ‘severe covid’. However suppression of detoxification symptoms, also a problem with early interventions such as Ivermectin, means that whatever the body was trying to get rid of; inorganic toxins, products of physical, mental or emotional stress etc will remain in the body. This may explain ‘long covid’, as well as the increased incidence of rapidly developing cancers after the jab.' https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/if-viruses-dont-exist-what-about
Jo
One may also ask the question, how long does a specific type of cancer take to grow? For the sake of argument, lets take patient X that found a cancer tumor in 2022, well if that specific type of cancer takes between 5-10 years or even longer to grow then how can a COVID-19 injection in 2021-2022 then be the cause of the cancer that takes 5-10 years to grow? Important to note here is that I do not try to claim here that the COVID-19 injections are safe because they aren't but we should be careful to not fall into the trap of blaming the wrong things either out of convenience because no true prevention can occur if we are addressing the wrong cause or causes.
Thanks John! This is an incredibly important point and one I was hoping someone would bring up. It's critical to consider the temporal nature of whatever you are trying to correlate. If you want to blame a drug effect on some new symptom that has emerged then it would only make sense if you started the drug within days of the new symptom not months. Here you've made a great case that if we go by the previous estimates for the temporal relationship regarding the growth of a tumor then it probably doesn't make sense that it would be related to the vaccine. However, what if that prior notion about tumor growth is wrong? What if it doesn't take 5-10 years? I know we are always told that cancer is disease of aging, of older people and I suppose the demographics do tilt in that direction but, what about childhood cancer? Also, how do we really know how long it took for a given tumor to grow? Diagnostics are really just a snapshot in time and then we predict back using models governed by the latest theory of cancer. Clearly I'm walking into uncharted territory here as we really just don't know how long it takes unless you are constantly doing whole body scans. However, what if it can happen on a much shorter timescale than what we are told? What it really comes down to as you've pointed out is "how long does it take a specific type of cancer to grow?". We must have an accurate understanding of that question to determine whether it's possible to make a correlation between the vaccines and the increase incidence in cancer cases.
"However, what if it can happen on a much shorter timescale than what we are told?"
Very good point that it may not need as much time to grow as we have been led to believe. I think this is a very complex question in regards to time because it's not just down to the level of exposure of toxins from a single source, the quality of nutrition and lifestyle, emotional and psychological health etc all play a role here too so what may be true for one individual does not necessarily turn out to be true for another. This is a topic I think where we should move away from a single cause into the thinking and perspective of multiple contributing factors. Yes, the injections may be a contributing factor due to its high level of toxins but it may not be the sole cause of cancer because there are so many other contributing factors to consider that are often are left out.
Completely agree. We have to consider that there are likely multiple contributing factors at play. The injections are certainly having an effect and could contribute to it but, we'd have to rule out everything else to say that it's solely caused by them. Here's another question... What if we are talking about pre-existing tumors that were caused by an assortment of different factors whose grow is not being significantly sped up due to the injections? The thing is we just don't know as we have no idea what is in the injections or everything they are doing.
Maybe cancer DOES take 5-10 years to grow, but maybe it can be exacerbated by the introduction of other new toxins.... or compounding toxins?
I know the 5G correlation has been sort of a taboo topic even within our community. But at the end of the day, its man-made & defies nature. We've seen what frequency changes do to birds for example. 5G was also newly introduced on a massive scale within the last couple years. Perhaps that could have exacerbated cancer growth?
What other new toxins may have been introduced recently that may create anomalies? Or what other toxins may have been exacerbated?
A quick (but relevant) tangent...
As a FL resident, ive seen a pretty alarming change in the so-called "naturally occurring red tide" and the "cyanobacteria". Both are not "new", but they seem to get perpetually worse. More & more, you can't swim or go to the beach. 2018 was the most infuriating & devastating years - 200 million tons of dead sea life were removed from the coast all around the state - worst year on record. The same year I realized it wasn't "naturally occurring" but was showing up AS A RESULT of something else. (When I found your Steamit articles, it started to make sense)
Florida has 27 phosphate mines - the byproduct phosphogypsum, is highly toxic & radioactive. This waste cant be (or isnt) disposed of, instead it sits atop these giant hills lined only with plastic. It isn't contained with any sort of lid either (It gets punctured easily, leaking into the municipal water system & the aquifer. Or a storm or hurricane will throw it around - we just had an epic CAT5 hit the state on Weds.... same time of year that red tide & cyanobacteria are the worst... go figure!)
Anyway, ive frequently seen articles about increase in cancer - especially among children who live near these mines, or hotspots for agricultural runoff, or concentrated cesspools of water with high levels of glyphosate.... yet people don't seem to make any correlation.
Anyway ive seen significant changes & warning signs in the 12 years I've lived here.... destroying the beautiful beaches, our drinking water, the plant & sea life... and overall health has been deteriorating.
Thank you, I hadn't thought of the immune system in that way. Excellent. 👍🏽
You might change your view on cancer if you look up David Rasnik and his chromosomal imbalance theory.
Interesting. Firstly I commend you for not taking the mandated Covid military grade bioweapons. But hey, I'm challenging you to step outside the American Christianity "box" and tell your listeners the Truth. American Christianity is also a Greek initiated psyops that has flipped the narrative upside down. The only reason Yeshua Hamashiach - a Jew - commanded peace in the storm was because He was divine and fully connected and spiritual entangled to the creator God. Jesus is a Greek Hellenized icon that is not divine and thus cannot bring any peace to anyone. 'Still in the Storm' isn’t clear because you obviously do not understand it at a spiritual level and you don't really understand the science and dynamics of how a storm or hurricane actually operates. A storm is a double vortex.... one being visible moisture and the opposite counter-rotation is unseen energy that counteracts it and creates the STILL at the apex. You are not identifying the unseen energy accurately. Your version is merely a narrative... an old and boring one proselytised to the rest of the world mainly by Americans.