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Jane 333's avatar

Science is another name for questions and genuine inquiry

However if left in other hands and not our own, we default to other’s knowledge

Just like politics, everyone must re-engage with science

Science is our responsibility

So much settled science is NOT - instead it’s sitting upon unquestioned assumptions and peer protected theories

Indoctrinated in our schooled daze

Put your science on, pull at the foundational threads and find the established frauds

It’s time science came back to the kitchen table

For instance

Water is not H2O

This fundamental change in knowing has retarded science and medicine

Just need to think

How does two dry gases produce a liquid that puts out a fire that both the gases would fan. Suggest reading 100 reasons water is not H2O by Peter Peterson on smashwords. Free eBook.

Water is key to understand where we live, what we breathe, how we thrive.

I’ve written an article

We breathe air not oxygen

And I explain the origin of oxygen toxicity.

Oxygen is prescribed primarily for the terminally ill not for breathlessness

Palliative care is not kind

Air is measured by its moisture or humidity

Oxygen is measured by it dryness Eg medical oxygen has 67ppm of water contamination

Lung alveoli requires air to reach 100% humidity

Can you see the mismatch?

Oxygen has been used to cull in plain sight.

Premi babies are especially vulnerable to the dryness of oxygen- when exposed in 100% oxygen tents their eyes dried up -blinded

Our lungs are a wet system

Blood is a wet system

Hydration is blood’s function

Nothing to do with dry gases

We need common sense and common science to return to everyone with an interest in life improvement

Knowledge lost will be recovered once folk see that deceptions need to be ferreted out.

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Rudolph Rigger's avatar

Excellent post - and it's always important to remind ourselves about what science is - and what it isn't.

Let's get a couple of minor quibbles out of the way first.

No, 2 + 2 does not always equal 4. If you're working with addition modulo 3, for example, then 2 + 2 = 1. However, (and this is a very important however), 2 + 2 **always** equals 4 when we're talking about this plus symbol + meaning 'standard' addition (with 2 and 4 and = having the usual meanings). Just as it **always** equals 1 when we're talking about this plus symbol meaning addition modulo 3. Once you've specified the meanings of **each** symbol and operation there's no room for manoeuvre.

The issue with the 'woke' drivel when it comes to maths is that they imply there's a kind of subjectivity - when there's none at all.

Secondly, I would suggest that science IS the only way of knowing about our physical world - which as, you rightly point out, does not mean that things like poetry, spirituality, philosophy etc are worthless. Our lives are much more than the sum of all the physical interactions going on between the atoms and molecules that make us up.

There's no such thing as an "indigenous" way of knowing about the properties of an electron, for example. There's no philosophical structure that will change the amount of charge it has, or the force it exerts on another electron.

Although I have more or less retired these days, my previous career was as a theoretical physicist, and it's from within physics we get the oft-quoted "examples" of things like Newton vs relativity, or Newton vs Quantum Mechanics etc. In my view it is incorrect to suggest that Newton (the old 'classical' picture) got it wrong. What we actually see is more of a refinement - how the old classical view sits within a much larger framework.

In some respects science CAN be settled - but it's in a negative, rather than positive, sense. We know, for example, that the Galilean transformation is not fully correct (it's a good approximation when dealing with the mechanics of objects travelling much slower than light). We know this because it can predict the wrong results for experiments. There's never going to be a time, from now on, where the Galilean transformation becomes the correct one (in all cases) - because it just doesn't predict the right results. The science IS 'settled' on that score.

Similarly in quantum mechanics, we have Bell's result which tells us that NO locally realistic theory of physics can reproduce all of the results of quantum mechanics. So if there's an experiment we can do which verifies this quantum result (and there are such experiments) we can say with certainty that the results of these experiments CANNOT be explained by a locally realistic theory. Once again, the science is settled on that.

Science, or rather the scientific method, is all about one very simple idea : if your theory doesn't work, change the theory

Most of the time we're not faced with this - most experiments are not 'falsification' experiments where the very tenets of current scientific thinking are being challenged. They tend to be things like "the theory predicts that this new antenna design will work better than the old one - let's build it and see". Sometimes, very rarely, in the course of that kind of experiment you're going to throw up an interesting result that can't be explained - and then you have to go back to the theory and see if it needs tinkering with. Usually it will be a case that there's some variable or effect you've neglected.

It's exceedingly rare that we're faced with a situation where everything has to be fundamentally re-written (or shown to be part of a larger theory like classical theories were shown to be part of larger theories like relativity or quantum mechanics).

Physics, however, is something of a special case. There's a limited set of laws whose consequences can be properly worked out, at least in principle. This convenient 'simplicity' does not carry over to things like biology or medical science - the systems one is dealing with there are hugely, hugely, more complex than those we typically examine in physics. We might use a bit of physics to understand how some protein folds, for example, but this protein in the body sits within an extraordinarily complex system full of all sorts of interactions and feedback mechanisms.

We don't even properly know what consciousness is, for example, but doctors are utterly convinced (or project that confidence) that some specific drug will be good for us - and yet at the same time recognise that there's a relationship between our state of mind (which we do not understand) and our health. It's one thing to be certain about the charge on an electron - quite another to be certain about the effects of a particular drug or vaccine.

It's always good to question - even the basics - because that process IS science; it's implicit in the scientific method. Theories (ideas) are challenged by the 'questions' posed by experiments. In broad terms, Popper's way of viewing this is the right one, I think. We can reject bad ideas (by experiment) - so we can 'settle' on that rejection, but we can never say that the ideas which pass an experimental test are "correct". Merely that they have, so far, passed all the experimental tests they've been subjected to.

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